Has Cable been reduced to a flex, and is this government following in the footsteps of Churchill?
It was Ross Noble’s joke on “Have I got news for you” last night. Vince Cable is now a flex. You have to see it to appreciate it. It seems that it is David Laws who has got the driving seat position in the cabinet, for a LibDem. While Vince Cable, as the set-up to Noble’s quip went, was given the Business department and then had $900 million slashed from his budget. “He’s now a flex” etc etc
In a similar vein, Alastair Campbell, who apparently carries round with him a framed portrait of David Laws (he is obviously smitten – well Laws is a handsome lad, after all), quipped on Question Time that Vince Cable looks a bit lost in the coalition government. He said:
He looks like a Burnley supporter made to stand at the Blackpool end
I am sure Vince will prove all the naysayers wrong and prove to be an excellent Business Secretary. It’s quite right that he is clearing the decks by stepping down as LibDem deputy leader.
Apart from workload considerations, there is also another reason why it is a good idea for Vince to step down as deputy leader. It will be good for the party to have a deputy leader who is not in the cabinet (or indeed in the government) and who is therefore better able to represent views from outside the, doubtless rather seductive, atmosphere of government. I think this will become more and more important as we progress and hit choppy waters. Having both the leader and deputy leader in the cabinet would have been too much. The party would have risked becoming unnecessarily divided. Activists would have felt that the whole leadership had “gone native” with the Tories.
Which brings me back to Question Time and the august figure of Piers Morgan. Back from abroad, he just could not believe that the Tories and LibDems had got together and said it wouldn’t last more than a few months.
In one sense I can understand where he is coming from. Indeed, Vince Cable himself is not a natural co-habitee of the Conservatives. He cut his political teeth in Glasgow, where Conservatives are something of a rarity. He was a Labour councillor. So one can understand that he is not a natural in Conservative salons.
Whereas, I suspect Nick Clegg is a natural for cross-party relations with the Conservatives. He was born and brought up in Chalfont St Giles, for goodness sake. He’s 100% a liberal. But in Chalfont St Giles you tend to get used to dealing with Tories. Glasgow – not.
But I think what Piers Morgan (and Alastair Campbell, who chipped in, in a similar vein) is missing are the historic strands of common thought between the LibDems (formerly Liberal Party) and the Conservatives. OK there are wings of the Tory party that are so right wing that you’d never see any common ground between them and the LibDems. But when you look at the likes of Kenneth Clarke and, historically, Ted Heath, they tend to be philosophically in the same ball park as us liberals.
Indeed, the best historic example of someone who was easy temperamentally, philosophically and politically in the Liberal and Conservative parties, and indeed in coalitions between the two and Labour, was, of course, Winston Churchill.
Many people look at him as a Tory and regard his career as a Liberal politician as short-lived and a “marriage of convenience”, often basing their thoughts on his oft-repeated quotes about ‘ratting and re-ratting’ and ‘any hack to get out of the stables’ etc etc.
But if you look at his ministerial career (below) he spent most of it serving as a Liberal Party member. He spent 10 years as a minister in purely Liberal governments. 10 years as a minister in purely Conservative governments. 6 years serving under Lloyd George in a coalition government while he was a member of the Liberal Party. 5 years as Prime Minister in his own coalition government during the second world war (while a member of the Conservative party). So 16 years beats 10 years or 16 years beats 15 years. Whichever way you look at it, Churchill was temperamentally ambi-dextrous between Liberal and Conservative (witness his foundation of the Labour Exchanges and National insurance which show his liberal credentials – but he also went off the rails and did some very illiberal things like sending the Black and Tans in to Ireland and suggesting that striking miners should be machine-gunned during the General Strike, while expressing his admiration for Mussolini etc etc).
I would suggest that what we are seeing in terms of, to an extent, a natural coalescing of policies between Tory and LibDem is not completely out of left field. There is a tradition of some of the philosophies of the two parties being compatible. …As there is also a lot of natural affinity between the LibDems and Labour. The most obvious distinguishing philosophy, which has been brought sharply into focus recently, is the Liberal Democrat belief in decentralising power. This has found an echo in the Conservative belief in “small government” (shown in the relatively easy merging of policies on things like stopping ID cards and lowering tax thresholds) and an anti-echo (if there is such a thing) in Labour’s belief in centralising power and authoritarianism, which, I wager, was one of the main stumbling blocks in trying to form a Lab-Lib coalition.
| Start | End | Position | Government of | Party | |
| 1905 | 1908 | Under-secretary of State for the Colonies | Campbell-Bannerman | Lib | |
| 1908 | 1910 | President of the Board of Trade | Asquith | Lib | |
| 1910 | 1911 | Home Secretary | Asquith | Lib | |
| 1911 | 1915 | First Lord of the Admiralty/Duchy Lancs | Asquith | Lib | |
| 1917 | 1919 | Minister of Munitions | Lloyd George | Cltn | |
| 1919 | 1921 | Secretary of State forWar and Air | Lloyd George | Cltn | |
| 1921 | 1922 | Sceretary of State for the Colonies | Lloyd George | Cltn | |
| 1924 | 1929 | Chancellor of the Exchequer | Baldwin | Con | |
| 1939 | 1940 | First Lord of the Admiralty | Chamberlain | Con | |
| 1940 | 1945 | Prime Minister | Churchill | Cltn | |
| 1951 | 1955 | Prime Minister | Churchill | Con |
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“historic strands of common thought between the LibDems (formerly Liberal Party) and the Conservatives. OK there are wings of the Tory party that are so right wing that you’d never see any common ground between them and the LibDems. But when you look at the likes of Kenneth Clarke and, historically, Ted Heath, they tend to be philosophically in the same ball park as us liberals.”
This liberal Conservative is tempted to agree, but I can’t totally agree with you. My list of common strands would not include Ted Heath – that lying, petty dictator who eventually admitted that he knowingly deceived the majority of us over the ‘Common Market/ EU – he surely belongs in no party which values honesty and respect for democracy in its leaders. Heath’s blundering arrogance and incompetence also lead to the misery of economic and social breakdown and the three day week.
I’ve always seen Churchill as torn between Conservatism and Liberalism. Supermac may have been of similar ilk: Macmillan was always acutely aware of his Scots croft dwelling to London slum, lodging house living grandfather’s and homeless father’s sufferings. These memories, in addition to the misery he saw and endured during WW1 and WW2 – and war wounds which never healed – were the driving force of his attempted one nationism and reformism. I love Ken Clarke: though for years I’ve metaphorically slapped myself over my admiration and affection for dear old Ken because of his uncritical adoration of the corrupt, undemocratic and authoritarian EU, I’ll perhaps stop slapping now that he appears to have at last accepted the majority will over this.
I love Piers Morgan too, despite his inner contradictions, but he spends too much time absorbing the rabidly anti-Conservative/ anti compromise hostility of US Democrats, whose challenges and consciousness are at a different stage to ours, as he tries to break into the big bucks show biz market in the US: double standards, Piers? Piers has no answers to the conundrum that we in UK are wrestling with and which few of the Democrats and Republicans are at present capable of even considering: how do you create a truly one nation government which fairly, logically and with national economic efficiency encompasses a fair dollop of the hopes, dreams and interests of us all? The Democrats’, Republicans’ and Pier’s foolish answer: more of the same, shut out half the nation from democratic representation because only the other half have the truth, just will not work or be accepted in UK any longer given the troubled, authoritarian, corrupt and turbulent consequences of the extreme left/right swings of the political pendulum during the past 60 years or so and the democratic yearnings and demands these have now awakened.
“The most obvious distinguishing philosophy, which has been brought sharply into focus recently, is the Liberal Democrat belief in decentralising power. This has found an echo in the Conservative belief in “small government” (shown in the relatively easy merging of policies on things like stopping ID cards and lowering tax thresholds) and an anti-echo (if there is such a thing) in Labour’s belief in centralising power and authoritarianism, which, I wager, was one of the main stumbling blocks in trying to form a Lab-Lib coalition.”
Agreed. I hope that one positive aspect of the coalition will be to prompt a critical re-examination of the complex issues this raises. Does power to the people mean real power to real people or just more of the same current cosmetic exercise of simply handing power to the current labyrinth of local elites?
As for David Laws whom I so admire: oh, flipping heck, what happens now?
And of course on the last line of your chart, while elected as a Con and a Con PM, he ruled in coalition with the greater share of the remnants of the Liberal Party, so that was, formally, a coalition, with coalition ministers &c.
First coalition since 1945 my arse. 1962 is the earliest you can say that.
Sorry, that last line went off at a tangent. Conservatives favoured coalition for quite a long time after they didn’t need it…
Churchill did not send the black and tans into Ireland. He sent the Auxiliaries. A completely different, albeit possibly more fearsome, force. Certainly more feared by the IRA. They wore blue, not black and tan. Funny how popular perceptions stick despite having no basis in truth. Let’s not go into what really happened in the 2nd World War…