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	<title>Comments on: Voting reform: Are the Tories pretending to be thick or are they really thick?</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew Huntbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Huntbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole credit crunch thing was the turning point for me. Suddenly I found ideas I&#039;d been having about how the finance system worked which I thought were me being thick weren&#039;t. I had approximately got things right. People paid millions to get things right hadn&#039;t.

I used to believe in all those conspiracy theories in which what looked stupid were really clever people trying to look stupid for devious reasons. Now I can see, it isn&#039;t that, they really are stupid.

The inability of the Tories to understand let alone make coherent comments about AV, which is really a very simple thing, is appalling. It isn&#039;t conspiracy - they really are as thick as they seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole credit crunch thing was the turning point for me. Suddenly I found ideas I&#8217;d been having about how the finance system worked which I thought were me being thick weren&#8217;t. I had approximately got things right. People paid millions to get things right hadn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I used to believe in all those conspiracy theories in which what looked stupid were really clever people trying to look stupid for devious reasons. Now I can see, it isn&#8217;t that, they really are stupid.</p>
<p>The inability of the Tories to understand let alone make coherent comments about AV, which is really a very simple thing, is appalling. It isn&#8217;t conspiracy &#8211; they really are as thick as they seem.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Salmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Salmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think any time where you&#039;re asking whether the Tories are thick or just pretending to be thick, my money&#039;s always going to be on them actually being thick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think any time where you&#8217;re asking whether the Tories are thick or just pretending to be thick, my money&#8217;s always going to be on them actually being thick.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Richard. Very good point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Richard. Very good point.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Gadsden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Gadsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve said on this one before, it&#039;s not that the Tories are thick, it&#039;s that they have never applied their brains to this subject, so they fall for the first argument that appears to support their pre-defined supposition.

I think you could make a good Tory case for AV actually - it tends to give a party with solid support (a national plurality and lots of second preferences) a larger and more robust majority than FPTP; it tends to shut out small extreme parties (like UKIP and BNP) more than FPTP.

In other words, it does the things that the Tories like about FPTP, just more so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said on this one before, it&#8217;s not that the Tories are thick, it&#8217;s that they have never applied their brains to this subject, so they fall for the first argument that appears to support their pre-defined supposition.</p>
<p>I think you could make a good Tory case for AV actually &#8211; it tends to give a party with solid support (a national plurality and lots of second preferences) a larger and more robust majority than FPTP; it tends to shut out small extreme parties (like UKIP and BNP) more than FPTP.</p>
<p>In other words, it does the things that the Tories like about FPTP, just more so.</p>
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