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Charlie on Question Time

June 23rd, 2006 | Author: paulwalternewbury

I thought Charlie-boy did very well on Question Time last night. The audience certainly responded to him very warmly.

He was particularly effective on Iraq, especially when he was correcting Germaine Greer, a LibDem supporter, who was bizarrely under the impression that we did not oppose the Iraq invasion strongly. He replied:

“I stood up and opposed the war in front of one million people in Hyde Park – isn’t that strong enough?”

That got a big round of applause. Excellent stuff.

By the way, Alan Johnson did extremely well. He is very articulate, as well as having the Prescott-like qudos of having come up the hard way through the unions. Definitely future deputy leader or leader material.

A couple parts of the show were like 1-on-1 interviews of Charlie by David Dimbleby, which was a change from the well-established the Question Time format. I do think DD was embarrassingly intrusive with his question “Are you teetotal?” What business is it of him or us? Charlie answered it very well, saying that he was “in good health and it’s up to me to keep it that way”. In other words, “mind your own business”. Quite right.

But he is not “over it”, is he? By “it”, I mean the leadership change. He referred to Ming as “my successor” only, without naming him, and talked about him (his “successor”) still finding his feet.

Come on, Charles. This isn’t the kindergarten. You made the right decision at the time and every one respects you for it. So stop brooding…take a deep breath and just practise the words:

“My extremely talented fellow Scot, Ming, is doing a superb job as leader in readying the party for the forthcoming elections.”

There, that wasn’t too difficult was it? If you have to wash your mouth out with soap and water in private afterwards, fine, but just say it.

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Anne Atkins: Sentence for Dobrowski murderers was 'prompted by political correctness'

June 22nd, 2006 | Author: paulwalternewbury

Thank you for all your comments on Anne Atkins’ little talk on Radio Four’s ‘Thought for the Day’ yesterday. Please keep them coming.

Below, I have attempted to rebut some of her points. The text of Ms Atkins’ speech is in italics, with my comments in bold. The BBC report of the result of the trial of the murderers of Jody Dobrowski is here.

Hate crime is as hateful as the name suggests. Jody Dobrowski was murdered, not for his wallet nor because he happened upon the wrong place at the wrong time, but because he was gay. A crime of chance or greed is undiscriminating, and anyone might have died in his place. But Mr. Dobrowski’s death was personal: attacked for his identity, assaulted for who he was, murdered for his very nature. Shockingly, if he had been different he would still be alive.

So under the Criminal Justice Act 2003, those guilty have been jailed for twenty eight years – and not a day too many… though twice as long as they would have received if their reason had been different: crimes prompted by race, religion, disability or sexuality now attract far heavier sentences. An understandable reaction, I realised when I heard of a man in America being dragged behind his car for a mile because he was black.

So far, so good.

Suppose, though, his torturers had objected to his hair colour? Or name, or make of car? Would his death have been any less dreadful? Does motive make a murder so much more wicked?

I am not aware that there is a vast prevalence of hair hate crimes in this country. There is, however, an intolerably high level of homophobic crime. Surveys suggest around 40% of the gay and lesbian community have experienced homophobic incidents within a year of being questioned.

The Crown Prosecution service says that sentences should reflect the need to encourage people to come forward to report such crimes: “Research studies suggest that victims of, or witnesses to, such incidents have very little confidence in the criminal justice system or those agencies that are part of it. Consequently, incidents of this nature have gone largely unreported because the victim or witness often believes either that they may become the subject of a police investigation themselves or that they will be treated disrespectfully because of their sexual orientation or gender.”

There is only one legal type of murder in this country. So, murder is murder. It is the same offence. However, the sentence required to adequately respond to particular murders does necessarily vary.

Hitler killed for reasons of race, religion, disability and sexuality, and his crimes still – and rightly – revolt us. But he also hated those who helped his targeted victims. Was it worse to kill a Jew than someone who – voluntarily and bravely – helped a Jew escape?

A lawyer in Mr. Dobrowski’s case is quoted as saying that “we are moving towards a saner society in which everyone’s human dignity and personality, whatever his lifestyle, is fully recognised” – a surprising observation when, as one commentator has pointed out, if Mr. Dobrowski had been heterosexual, his life would seem to have been valued as only half as precious.

No, the murder would still have been “murder” and there have been some pretty hefty sentences for murders unmotivated by the victims’ sexuality. For example, two teenagers were jailed for a minimum of 22 and 18 years respectively for the murder of a six-former on a beach in Wales. That was only last week – you can see a news report of the trial here.

So we no longer have a set punishment for a certain crime then, but a system that seems subjective in response to circumstances.

Different sentences for murder have been around for an awful long time – certainly from way before the 2003 Criminal Justice Act. A ‘mercy killing’ receives a lesser sentence than a case in which someone is tortured to death, for example.

Of course, the sentencing of a judge is “subjective” but what does Ms Atkins suggest instead? Is she seriously suggesting that there should be, for example, an invariable 20 year sentence for murder? If so, does she really believe that a man who murders his terminally ill spouse by helping her to die should receive a 20 year sentence in the same way as a drunken skinhead who bludgeons to death a complete stranger because he is gay? Should a wife who murders her husband as he attempts to physically abuse her, after years of abuse, and shows remorse for her crime, receive the same 20 years as a man who tortures to death for gratification a complete stranger, and shows no remorse?

It was recently the 20th anniversary of a case that caused outcry for similar reasons, when the perpetrators of the violent and terrifying Ealing vicarage rape were given lenient sentences because, the judge said, the victim’s trauma “had not been so great”. This was retribution based on reaction rather than reason: now we have a penalty apparently prompted by political correctness.

Following the Ealing rape controversy, under Sections 35 and 36 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988, the law was changed to allow the Attorney General to refer sentences he or she regards as unduly lenient to the Court of Appeal. This facility is now used on a routine basis.

It is a long established feature of British justice that the judge, taking into consideration the relevant legislation and circumstances, sets the sentence, which is subject to appeal. That is not political correctness (whatever that vague Daily Telegraph rallying cry means). It is a long accepted principle of justice in this country. The deterrent effect and the risk of re-offending are taken into account, for example. I believe most people think this is reasonable although, obviously, sentencing is a controversial area.

Of course, judges vary in their sentencing. It is an imperfect system, as is any system which involves human

s. But the facility now exists for the appeal of unduly lax sentences, which is a very important safeguard.

It’s a far cry from the statue of justice on top the Old Bailey, blindfolded because she shows no partiality towards persons.

That is not actually true. The statue of ‘Justice” by F.W Pomeroy on the top of the Old Bailey is not blindfolded. For evidence of this, please see a couple of art sites, which describe the statue here and here.

Very different too from the origin of judgement itself, the justice of God. Whose ruling is so objective that it is the same for sinner and saint equally; who despite His particular love for some yet treats all alike; and who is so scrupulously fair that good and bad – of any race, religion, disability or sexuality – will face the same Judgement… and are offered the same escape from it.

I agree with the last paragraph. But, my goodness, it was an arduous and tortuous trek getting there. There was quite a lot of hopping, skipping and jumping involved. ‘Thought for the Day’ on Radio Four is described as “A moment of quiet reflection amongst the turmoil of politics.” The turmoil of Ms Atkins’ alarming reasoning is hardly conducive to “quiet reflection”.

Why not play a recording of a pneumatic drill for two minutes? It would be more relaxing.

Don’t the BBC expect basic journalistic standards from their contributors? So, for example, if someone is going to describe the statue of ‘Justice’ at the Old Bailey, might it not be a good idea that they check whether or not it has a blindfold before incorrectly stating that it has?

Of course, the good old BBC has a variety of contributors to “Thought for the Day”. So, for every contributor who winds up certain sections of the audience there is another contributor who charms that same audience section.

It all leads me to conclude that if Anne Atkins was contagious, the antidote would be Lionel Blue.

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Anne Atkins: Sentence for Dobrowski murderers was ‘prompted by political correctness’

June 22nd, 2006 | Author: Paul